Cheating. Everyone's doing it. For homework, notes, and sometimes on quizzes and tests. And since I'm the smart person, everyone asks to copy my stuff. Sorry, I don't do that. Anyone have suggestions on how to tell people to copy someone else's stuff, not mine? And preferably a way that won't make me sound like a goody-goody any more than I already do. Is cheating a problem at your school? Consqeuences? Do you cheat? Etc.

Sure, it's called "Fuck off, I'm reporting you for trying to cheat."

I occasionally got asked for my work to be copied - it is a bit difficult to tell them to..er..*beep* off without looking completely nerdy ha. Most often it was friends/people I reasonably got along with who asked for my work. Either way, I've never advocated cheating, so I'd tend to shrug my shoulders and say, "well, it's not that difficult, do you need some help". If they've left it to the last minute, and there's no time for them to do it, I was like "well, sorry, but..." and then changed the topic.

I'm long out of school now, I don't think it was too rife. Once a friend tried really hard to get me to cheat off of them in a test, which is a bit weird. I don't think they were..overly strict on us for cheating. I don't know how often they picked it up. At uni, plagurising was a big issue, you would get kicked out of the uni if they discovered you were - with all fancy software that would scan passages to see if it sounded like something else on the net etc.

What I do? I tell them the wrong answer

But I HATE people who cheat. This one kid in my chemistry class finished with a 97 average (same as me) only because he got 100 on the first test because he got the answer key as the test sheet by mistake, scribbled down all the answers, then turned in the answer key. I hated that! I worked my butt off to get a 97, and he gets it for not even having to work? I thought that was really unfair.

just say "i would, but i really messed up on this one and youd be better off doing it yourself" or tell them that they will be better off for tests in the future if they try it themselves.

i cheated on a few quizzes in grade 9 art, im bad i know lol. the way it happened was in that class we had an Art Journal and we put all our work and tests and quizzes in it, well she left one out from the year before for us to look at for ideas on how to decorate and go "above and beyond" well she forgot that the tests were in there too and we basically all got the answers for every test lol.

I don't understand what the problem is. You are going to get the same grade, regardless of whether or not they get a good grade. It's not like you are really helping them out by not letting them copy your paper, they're just going to go copy someone else's. I don't know. I was always the smart kid who let everyone copy my work.

But it's not fair if you work hard and study and all they do is look at someone's paper.

And that is why I always give everyone who asks to a wrong answer so they get it all wrong.

I know a lot of kids who cheat, or ask for help. Me and my friend help eachother out in classes. Shes stronger in math, and Im stronger in social studies. I know kids wholl take tests or copy anwsers onto their phones for reference. I doubt itll ever stop.

I dont understand why people complain, yet they let people get away with it when they know its going on. If your not going to speak up, stop complaining.

I agree with Rob. They are going to take it personally no matter what you say so why not just say what you really feel. =P I understand where your coming from seriously. You worked hard and these lazy bums are asking for awnsers because they didn't do any of their work and if they copy off you, you guys will get the same grade when your the only one who actually earned it.

I agree with mostly everyone. If you don't want to give it to them, say so. If they don't want to be your friend, or whatever after, they never were true friends in the first place. I usually just say nope, sorry. &+ they know thats all their gunna get.

but what difference does it make if you still get the same grade? Life isn't fair. There will always be people taking the easier route, don't hate on them just because you wont. What if something happens one day, and you really need their help? I just don't understand why you would give them the wrong answers, that is pretty rude. You could just give them no answers instead of screwing them over. They aren't doing your grade any harm by asking for the answers, so why would you make their grade go down?

I'm not screwing them over. They're screwing themselves over. If they wanted the right answer, they should of studied harder. I'm not their mommy who gives them the right answer all the time and babies them. Like you said, life isn't fair.

If I DID give them the answers on my test and it continued, we would constantly have the same grade, the same questions right, the same questions wrong. Then the teacher will call us in for questioning, and I may get a 7 day detention, a 0 on the tests that were copied, and cheating will go on my permanent record. Yes, I will get that if I get caught helping someone cheat.

haha i see nothing wrong with what daina is doing.. and i don't see how the whole ''life isn't fair you should give people the awnsers'' really works. if she doesn't want to give people the awnsers, why should she? it's called standing up for herself and not giving away awnsers just because people want her to.

This goes on a lot at my school too. I just try to avoid it by saying "oh I don't have it with me" when people ask me for my homework. Otherwise, just be straightforward and say "no".

Actually I'm going to have to disagree with the fact of what I'm doing is "standing up for myself." The way I see it is I'm actually taking the most non-controversial way out of the situation. By giving them the wrong answers, I'm not standing up for myself. I just don't want to make a big fuss out of it, and they probably won't remember which one they copied or off of who, so I don't get into any controversies, yet I'm teaching them a lesson to not cheat and study themselves or live with a 60 or below for a grade...

But thanks for siding with me.

I've never been asked, but I'm pretty sure I'd just tell them to fuck off. If someone wants help with study, that's fine, or if they're having trouble, that's totally okay, and I'd be more than willing to help, but when it comes to exams and assignments, that's just a no-go. Besides that, teachers and lecturers aren't stupid, they can tell these things, and what's the result? You both get into trouble for cheating.

oh well i just meant BlueTovah should stand up for herself and not give away the awnsers if she doesn't want to.

Well then stop doing all the work yourself and just start copying off someone, or just quit complaining. haha sorry, that's me being a smart ass. i don't know, i copy on homework and quizzes sometimes. i don't really care because i do my share of the work and let people copy, its kind of like a "fair trade" thing. lol thats horrible, i know

Not to you, apparently.

so basically what your saying is you only do half the work so you only half learn everything? i see no point to that. see how well that works for you in the end.

just because you copy doesn't mean that you only half learn everything. My friends and I all copied homework, and most of us graduated at the top of our class. We obviously learned everything thoroughly, otherwise we wouldn't have passed finals. Copying and letting people copy isn't going to ruin your life, it's only highschool.

And bad habits get brought to college.

Do what ever you want, but I'm going to continue studying myself, doing my OWN work since I'm not a lazy ass and I don't need other people to do my work for me, and giving the wrong answers to people who want right answers because they're really screwing themselves over.

If you get away with it in highschool, then it's really tempting to say things like "well it's just for this one paper" when you get to college. And they're a lot more diligent when it comes to checking for cheating. They'll look through assignments and see the copied work. Stop thinking that they're too stupid to see. Cheating screws everyone over in the end. And brings bad karma.

saying that you cheated your way to get to the top of your class isn't exactly something you should brag about. it's sad really. school isn't THAT hard. you're right, it is only highschool. so why would you have to resort to cheating? if you can't handle doing highschool work on your own it only makes it seem like you can't handle much at all.

No, I didn't cheat my way through highschool. I am actually a very bright person, and I had a very heavy courseload within the IB Diploma. My friends are equally bright and had the same classes as me. We were not only at the top of our class because of our GPAs, but because we had the IB Diploma, too, and we didn't just manage that because we cheated, . I got a 2000 on the SAT and a 30 on the ACT. I had a job and I am a competitive horseback rider also. Trust me, I can handle my fair share of work. I'm not a lazy ass either Dinayay, but I'm also not stupid, so I'm usually going to find the easiest way to do something.

And no, school isn't that hard, but if you're trying to get my diploma, it can be.

And for the kids in academic classes, why not make it a little easier? why not make your life a little simpler? work a little less and play a little more? if you can save a little time to make room for friends, why shouldn't you? school doesn't really matter. It isn't resorting to cheating, it's taking a shortcut to have a little more time for other things. It's not my last option, it's just the easier route, and it gives me more time to kick it with my buddies.

And so what if some people can't handle highschool work? who are you to judge? Some kids just aren't that capable. And it isn't your right to judge them. Maybe they don't know how to read so well, maybe they can't get a tutor. They probably are embarrassed to ask for help with their reading, what highschool kid do you know would come up to you and say, "hey, my parents never taught me to read, I was hoping you would help me learn" yeeeeah right. They'd never ask that. But they can ask you if they can copy it, because that doesn't mean they are stupid. So why not help them out? I knew a kid who was busting his balls trying to get his *beep* together so that he could graduate. But you know what? his mom was a junkie who was constantly kicking him out. He had to work late shifts in order to pay rent, and sometimes he couldn't make it to school. Who would I be to call him lazy and turn my nose up at him? I helped that kid out as much as I could.

I'm in college right now, and nobody has called me out on cheating. But you guys don't seem to realize that there are pretty sly ways to cheat. It's not like anybody is writing the same essay 6 times and handing it out.

I don't know. It seems like everyone on this forum is completely straight edged. I haven't really seen anybody else who is willing to step outside the lines sometimes, bend the rules. I talked a while ago about the drugs I had done, and everybody freaked out, you call people whores when they are just being sexual, you freak out when you see pictures of underaged drinking... it's like, damn, live a little. Isn't there anyone who can see that cheating isn't all bad? isn't there anyone who is willing to stick it to the man? you don't need to be these little pod people who do exactly as you are told. Sometimes it is okay to break the rules, sometimes it makes your life a little more fun. I feel like this is Nancy Reagan's wet dream. All you simple minded, god fearing, straight laced little pods.

Oh, way to be mature, haha.
I hate to say it, but a lot of people have admitted to doing drugs on this forum and seeing how underage drinking is illegal, if pictures are found on the forum it probally wouldnt go over well.
Ive admitted to cheating but anyways:
If cheating wasnt all bad, how come it isnt tolerated?

You're missing the point entirely. You're bringing up points about how some people maybe can't read well or aren't capable, which is all well and good, but you are missing the point. By cheating, you are not learning anything, and if you can't read well, then you're pretending that you can, and covering up for yourself, and then you do not get the help you need. Do you understand? If you pretend that you worked, when you did not, it is assumed that you know about something and have learned, when you have not, and if you need help, you will not end up getting it.

I'm not straight-edge by any means, people freaked out about your drug use because you were making it sound like you were completely dependent on it to be creative, might not be the case, but it sounded like it. Neither have I freaked out calling anyone a whore, I think people can do what they want, but if they're having sex, then they should at least be using protection. Unless they want to get pregnant or some STI. You're completely missing the point.

I was a bit of stoner in college, and I did start drinking before he legal age, and I remember how much fun it was. But this has nothing to do with any of that. So stop dragging other things into it.

Well I'm not sure about your highschool but at my high school they do give people who need help help, like tutors and special attention, etc. & I understand sure your busy, but that gives you no right to cheat. nobody is forcing you into horesbacking riding and whatever else you do, it's your decision, right? therefore you should take full responcibility for it instead of using it as your exuse for cheating. and really cheating only hurts you in the end. it really does help on tests to do your homework. it does for me at least. that's why i don't cheat. i don't feel like i'm really earning my grade if i do. i took a lot of AP and college prep classes this year which give LOADS of homework and tests every night so i can understand why it might be tempting to cheat so i can have more time with my friends and family but it's only for 2 more years and i need to do good now so i can get a scolarship.


and all because i think it's wrong for people to cheat and think it's a stupid move, doesn't mean i'm looking down on the people who do it. everybody makes mistakes. i don't call people who have sex whores, or call people who do drugs losers. it's not like i'm perfect. i'm not looking down on anybody. i just gave my opinion on cheating and it just wasn't the same as yours. that's all. i think you are taking this topic a little too personally. lol besides.. wasn't this topic about someone getting annoyed of people asking for awners all the time anyways? if she doesn't want to give the awners she has every right not to. it doesn't make her a goody-goody for standing up for herself. end of story.

everyone on this forum? I hope your kidding.. Bend the rules for what? Many people on here like Jamie said have talked about drug addictions, or being an alcoholic.. have you read the whole forum before? Breaking rules, does make your life fun.. but I don't think you get the point.


If i do a half an hour work of math problems, than go to school the next morning and hand it off to someone:

1) Did they learn it? no.
2) Did it take them a half an hour to do out all the problems and understand HOW to do it? no.

so once the test comes along they'll be fucked.(excuse my language)

most people HAVE cheated before, I have I wont lie.. but it gets annoying after awhile. Whats the point of you doing mad work on something.. and someone else getting credit for your work? when they didnt "waste" their time doing it.


people cheat. it happens. its not gunna change. but it doesn't mean everyone should go do it, and get away with it.


&+ how would you feel if you did a paper on someone.. researched for hours.. than let someone else pass in an almost identical paper.. you get your paper back and get a B+ and the person you let copy it gets an A.

I think you'd feel like crap to be completely honest.

Or the teacher saw two identical papers and started looking into it, and supposing the person YOU let copy your work accused you of copying? What'd you do then?

Honestly, I'll admit to it, I've cheated. However, it's never been anything major. Like today in Japanese, I could not remember the character for "ne". I have no idea why but it totally slipped my mind. I asked my friend next to me what it was and she told me. After the test I made sure that I practiced my Hiragana quiet a few times and paid special attention to "ne".

I wouldn't copy somebody's test or assignment. That's just wrong and it isn't helping the person at all. If they forget to the work or forget to study and then fail the test... well... take it as a lesson learned.

Wow. I just wanted a way to say no without sounding like a total goody-good, as I have been called. But thanks for the support.
Now some of the teachers are not collecting certain homework sheets because they know it's been passed around too much. Fewer things can by typed so nobody can email it to someone else. Things are changing because of the cheating. I just want it to stop.

Sadly, because of low lifes, cheating will never be stopped.

If you really don't have anything to say, ignore them. After you've finished, hand in your test, sit back down, and read a book and completely ignore them. Soon enough, they'll either quit bothering you or the teacher will hear them.

it's really sad what this world is coming to. anytime somebody tries to do the right thing, there is always somebody pulling them down and picking on them. you know, people like lacy.

Not cheating has nothing to do with fearing any higher power in my case, I (a) don't want the bad karma ( don't want someone taking credit for my work © don't want to take credit for other peoples' work. I guess I don't want to be a worthless parasite, which is how I see people who do cheat.

I've cheated a few times in my school career. Mostly it was in middleschool for the vocab tests because we had to come up with 20 definitions from our own words so i would write little hints on a post-it in my sleeve. Now, as a senior in highschool i let people copy my work occasionally just because school comes really easy to me and if i can help them by giving them a few answer on a ditto and along the way maybe teach them something as i explain my answers im happy to do so. Cheating isn't the best thing but i think in moderation it should be acceptable or least not made to be this TERRIBLE thing. If you don't want to let somebody cheat off of you dont, but don't crucify others for not caring if somebody else does. Not stating that to the author of this thread, just to anybody in general.

I don't let other kids cheat off my papers. If they ask, I just say, "Do your own work!" or something and then hide my paper from them. The only thing is, I have to be careful in some classes because some people cheat off me without asking...my best friend watches out for me in math class, where this girl is always trying to sneak answers off of my paper.

so in that case, why don't you tell the teacher to move your seat?

i'm sorry, did NOBODY ELSE catch that?
school matters, duh? what do you think you need to go through in order to get a living?

yeah, i cheat. however, that's not getting me through high school. for example, if i have vocab. due in english & all i have to do is look up the words, if my friend does it & lets me borrow it, i'll take it. why would i look up the words & take 20 minutes to do so and get the SAME thing as my friend, when there's really NOTHING to understand about it, just write it down.

sometimes i write down formulas for pre-cal or something if i can't remember it, which maybe you're all right & i'll get karma soon & i'll never learn it. however, i don't think that'll make me fail in life. maybe if i did it all the time, but i don't.

honestly, if a friend asks me for my paper, i'll let them borrow it. they know to change the wording a little, and if we DID get caught, they're my friend & i know they'll confess. if for some reason they didn't, i'd realize they're not a true friend & get in trouble with it. i don't really care if i spend 20 minutes on something & they spend 2 minutes on it cause they copy it, it doesn't bother me. it's not hurting me.

however, i do think it's immature to give the WRONG answers. i agree with whoever said it, they aren't hurting you by asking you for the answers, why hurt them? i think it's rude. just say no. cause if you give them answers, they'll start to trust you in that subject, but you're just bringing their grade down. i just think it's immature & rude.

^ I do agree with that. I mean if its once and awhile, I`ll give them my paper.. or I`ll do it myself. But if its everyday, forget it.


the whole school isn`t important? im sorry where do YOU live? Cuzs around here, its not necessary, but you usually can get a bit further.

i have cheated and i still cheat some times. it's only on little things like an answer in spanish class or something, that doesn't really matter. i have cheated on quizes, but i don't any more. i either know the material or i don't

I'll admit it. I've cheated before, doesn't mean its right. I agree with what Emma said.. if its something like vocabulary its not THAT big of a deal.. but if its a big assignment Im not gonna let someone else see it.

You cheat on the little things, it's a slippery slope, that's all I'm saying. People never ask me to cheat, and it hasn't happened in the course I'm taking. Wouldn't that be hilarious? A bunch of law students breaking the rules? Anyway, yes, I am self-righteous and my principles to cheating are black and white. Far as I see it, if you cheat in little things, it's the same thing, sooner or later you're going to start justifying to yourself that that's okay too.

School is important. In Ireland, if you do badly in school, you don't get into college, though that said, college isn't everything, but woe betide you if you get caught cheating in college, it's a bigger deal there.