what do they do with the fetus's after they are aborted? i mean they have to dispose of them in some way...

They are incinerated, cremated, burnt to ashes. Also stem cells are normally cultivated off them now to help aid in research. Some might say so what, but hell if the bunch of cells is being destroyed isn't it better that some good comes of it?

I guess. So that means...abortion leads to cancer cures? Or the possibility of it.

yes i think its good that they use the stem cells for research. they are going to be destroyed either way, but one way could cure aids, the other way nothing happens.

my friend tried to tell me they threw them in the trash, but that didnt sound right to me. are the mothers allowed to claim the ashes, or are they disposed of?

The ashes are just disposed of. I mean think about it, would you want the ashes of the child that could have been? Even that pushes it too far for me.

^ i dont know. It depends on the reason because if it was just you didnt want the baby then noooo but if it was like it would put the mum at great risk than i think thats ok.

I agree with that. The ashes should be allowed to go to the mother if is was under certain circumstances (like if it was a risk to carry on being pregnant top the mother) but otherwise I think that it is best what they do.

Stem cell research is an awesome thing. They can do that even if the baby is born (non aborted) and stuff. I hope they find a use for those.

I hate Abortion. I cant stand it.Why would one person want to kill someone.Even if the baby is one or 2 cells.Its living creature that god put on earth.Even though its not out yet its still something

Have we not made it clear that not everyone believes in god so that arguement is invalid when it comes to the hows and whys of abortion?

i dont agree w/ abortion. But the only thing i will understand is if the mother is at risk of dying. But if the girl got pregnant from messin around... then its a def NO!

personally i would NEVER!

Yeah, I think there are stem cells in umbilical cords. Using those cells makes way more sense than killing an unborn baby to get them.

i agree 100% w/ you. I mean..if your 'responsible' enough to have sex.. maybe you should have thought of all the outcomes and be prepared for them. And if you thought you weren't ready to have a baby, you shouldn't have sex. bottom line. There's no use in killing an innocent child, because you'd rather live your 'fun, carefree' life than take the responsibility for the outcomes of your choice to have sex.

I hope all of you who are against it stupidly get knocked up and then have to make this decision yourself. You seem to not take into count how emotionally taxing it is on the girl. I had a friend who has sex with guys because that is the only way that made her feel like a real person and happy. Similar if you will to cutting. She got pregnant and had to get an abortion. Just because she had to get an abortion she tried killing herself 3 times. She didnt want to get it, but she knew she had to. It is not so black and white as you say it is.

What is abortion exactly?

Dude are you serious man?

2cHeErLiCiOuS4u the fact they are having unprotected sex means they are NOT responsible enough to have a child. I mean come on, use your head.

Thats not always the case robb. Have you never got cuaght up in the heat of the moment, in regards to anything?

I have been caught in the heat of the moment, but I usually remember what unprotected sex can lead to. It has happened to me, in fact it happened to me when I was 16. I was in no way responsible enough to have a child if I was not responsible enough to have safe sex. I mean seriously think of it. It takes 2 moments to stop and put on a condom, all you have to do is remember what sex leads to. If you cannot remember to do that you are not responsible enough to raise a child.

Also in this day and age, "Morning After Pill".

2 moments put a condom on. What if they havent got one with them? They dont want to ruin the moment? Its not irresponsible its just not thinking about your actions completly. Everyones guilty of that.

The morning after pill- yes there is but maybe the girl doesnt WANT to take it. I wouldnt have the morning after pill.

It's not irresponsible? Then pray tell what is it? Not stopping and thinking of what can happen is irresponsible? Are you even thinking of what you are saying? Not thinking your actions through is what irresponsibility is. It is the very definition of it.

As for not taking the morning after pill, you rather be pregnant at 15 then take it? Then you are a bigger idiot then I gave you credit for.

An abortion is .......in simple an operation where a baby is killed by an operation before the child is born.......I'm not high and mighty on the fact so maybe someone can give you a better explanation.......

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I wouldnt have sex at this age. I have reasons for not having the morning after pill, if thats okw ith you ofcourse.

What i was aying is EVERYONE acts like that some of the time. Yet you say some are responsible to have kids and others arent.

To be honest I say NO teenager is responsible enough to have kids. And ok you don't need the morning after pill because you are not sexually active. But if you were, and say the condom tore, would you take it then? Think carefully about your answer.

Yes. I have taken it and I currently have one upstairs in my room just in case. Those things are very awesome If you can handle the side effects. Plus, through Planned parenthood they are free.

NO! I would not have the morning after pill for reasons i do not wish to discuss but thats not the point. You think all teenagers cannot be responsible for a baby? Fair enough, but i do disagree. Some teenagers are more mature then some adults. Its different for every person!!!!!!

FadedCaliGirlie, you are what one would call, responsible. Not responsible enough for kids mind you, take offense if you wish, but responsible enough to consider the consequences of your actions.

Ok kittenJanine you have your reasons, whatever they maybe. Ok some teenagers are more mature then adults, but that does not mean they can support a child. Why? It's called a job, and financial security. Something no teen can really offer unless perhaps they have VERY rich parents, or win the lotto.

Ah well i dont know. My mum managed fine with my brother. My brother was unplanned, my mum was 15, there were irresponsible not use a condom yes. My mum always said if she could go back and change the timing she would but her and my dad managed to bring Anthony up while my mum was at school and my dad at college. They both had a litlle bit of money and because they put my brother first he was bought up ok. Then when my dad finished uni and came into a bit of money they had me!
They were resonsible enough to have a baby and many others are too!
Maybe this is too close to home and its really winding me up too much.

I know that I am not responsible enough to have kids. I am fully aware of that. Right now in life I am not mature enough to be able to honestly put someone else before myself, which is what people have to do when they raise kids. I believe there are very few teens that can put someone else first in their lives.

Ok, your parents managed it, good for them. That does not mean all other teens will be as smart as your folks were, and that is the problem.

No, i never said all of them are like that. No way. It was you who lumped all teens together, not me. Im simply saying that i strongly disagree with what you said.

I admit I lumped all teens together, because, generally speaking, teenagers are not ready to be parents and cannot support children. I have given clear concise reasons behind that, which are backed up by factual evidence. There are exceptions to that of course, there is in everything, but, once again, generally teens are not ready to be parents in any way, shape or form. I was not mentioning specifics, as talking about something like this takes in far too many to be that specific. You were just being obtuse about it and you know it.

No, i wasnt. You have accused me of over simplifing before and thats what you are doing. Its never as straight forward as that and many teen grow up to be good mums, maybe the situation is was not ideal but who are we to decide the best enviroment for a child not knowing the situation?

i have to ways at loking at abortion, good and bad.

good:

1. you may have a teen pregnancy and you are sure you wont be able to care for the baby.

2. it is your choice to do what youwant with your body.

3. you may have been raped and didn't want a bagby at tis time.

4. it leads less responsibilities to those who are not ready to be parents


bad:

1. you are throwing away a life of a baby

2. there are other people in this world that would enjoy having a baby unlike you

3. some people have died from the procedure of an abortion.

4. there are good adoptions centers that will let you choose the parents and let you see the baby as many times you want.


thats how i look at it. i think abortion is killing a baby that can have a great life in this world, but yet it is the person's decision. although i would never have an abortion if idid get pregnant and wasnt ready i believe that it is your bady and you can choose what you want to do whit it. i am bboth pro and con in this topic.

Erm, so? Good for them?

Abortion could also save the womans life though. SOme women are told that if they go through with the pregnancy they may not survive and all that.

I think abortion is only ok if you got raped and got pregnant cuz of that. And if u get pregnant unintentionally, put it up for adoption ( i know that sounds mean) but still its WAY better than getting an abortion.

Regardless of a teenager's maturity, it cuts their childhood short. Yes, they bring a new life into the world, but they miss out on so much. As a teenager, you are still growing and maturing emotionally, and that gets cut short suddenly.

The option needs to be open. Abortions are illegal in Ireland, so anyone who needs (and yes, I say NEED, not want) one has to go to England. Okay, for some people unplanned pregnancy doesn't end in disaster, but there are enough cases that it does that the option needs to be open.

i think its a bad thing cuz u r killin a buetiful thing i mean if u dont want the baby there is adoption and plus if u r a teen and u got pregnate by ur man from sleepin around than u should keep it cuz that should b ur punshment is havin to live wit the memeori buuuutt a baby is a wounderful thing so if u dont want it dont kill it

So the child should suffer because of the parents idiocy? Yeah, sure. That makes sense.....

That's come up before time and time again. I think that we established that using a human life to punish someone else for a mistake is unethical and, oh I don't know BLOODY STUPID, Sweetnsour200890. Seriously think about it.

thats not what I mean at all i just don't think that they should kill the baby for there mistake if they didnt want a baby they should have kept there legs closed

Or practiced safe sex, or what if it was because the condom tore? Think before posting.

So what are you semi pro-life? Explain to me how in one circumstance it's okay, and in another it's not. Abortion is abortion no matter what way you look at it.

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I think that she means it okay if you get an abortion because of rape but if you just got pregnant because you didnt have safe sex then its better to give the baby away. Basically, adoption is better.
Thats the way i took it anyway.

I can see where you are coming from kittenJanine, mainly because you were clear, but think of all the children already waiting for adoption in orphanages. Adding more just stretches their already thin budget.

I realize what she is saying, but she says that she thinks that abortion is ONLY okay if you have been raped. So what does that make her semi pro-life? What a life is worthless if you were raped compared to if you willingly opened your legs?

So you think that pregnancy should be used as punishment for having sex that YOU don't agree with? What makes you think that you are so godly that all other people should have to live by your morals?

Why do you think a baby be used as punishment? How would you feel if you were told that the only reason you were born was to punish your mother?

I think that she probably means that adoption is better but if its not your fault and you cant stand the baby growing in side you then abort it if you have to.

if the condom rips than there is adoption

And just because the condom rips the girl should go through 9 months of prenancy and then the hardship of giving the child up for adoption? You clearly have no clue what you are on about Sweetnsour200890.